Engraving Forum.com - The Internet's Largest and Fastest Growing Engraving Community

The Internet's Largest and Fastest Growing Engraving Community
Discuss hand engraving using basic to the most advanced methods and equipment
Forum Members: 14,732. Welcome to our newest member, Miss Allison
EngravingForum.com - Domain since Feb 7, 2003

Graver Video Conferencing is empty Join now!


Go Back   Engraving Forum.com - The Internet's Largest and Fastest Growing Engraving Community > Forums > Tutorials and Contests - Hand Engraving Forum
ENGRAVING TOOLS - Paypal accepted Classes Glossary Feedback Tips Sharpening Bulino Videos Forum Policies

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-11-2007, 12:06 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Seeing as I can Only Win One's
I would Like to Start a Tutorial online, for either Bulino or Scrimshaw, Using the Classic Foot Control, !!

I will Use The Rhino that I Entered for the Drawing Comp. (or Ant Hill )
And Go with it Step By Step.!!

Although Bulino will be my First Try, I have Been Doing Scrimshaw for Years Know.
And Bulino is only another Material, to work with, the tool and method stays similar.

So Shall We Go With Scrimshaw? or Bulino.?

ChrisB.

Last edited by ChrisB; 04-11-2007 at 12:40 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-11-2007, 11:21 AM
jacques herbst jacques herbst is offline
Gold
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: kokstad south africa
Posts: 184
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Do A Scrim.i Can See From Your Knife There Is Lots That You Can Share With Us.is The Graver The Same As The One Used In Bulino.what Sort Of Paint Do You Use To Fill It In.can You Show Me A Closeup Of That Scrim On Your Latest Knife.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-11-2007, 01:36 PM
shonn's Avatar
shonn shonn is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Salt lake city Ut
Posts: 71
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

I would like to see Bulino please . i have done like 3 things in Bulino but can see that i really need help understanding the way its done more fully,the more info i can see and learn the better .:thumbsup:
here is one i tryed to do on a old pocket watch back i had laying around


looks like a UpsideDown ANT hill to me but its really a Elefant( spelled it wrong)
__________________
shonnwerner@hotmail.com




Last edited by shonn; 04-11-2007 at 04:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-11-2007, 01:53 PM
Tom McArdle's Avatar
Tom McArdle Tom McArdle is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Western NY USA
Posts: 1,040
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Bulino for me.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-11-2007, 03:18 PM
Dave London's Avatar
Dave London Dave London is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 2,359
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Chris Bulino is my vote. Thanks Dave
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-12-2007, 03:32 AM
Montejano Montejano is offline
Gold
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 185
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

BULINO, please.

Montejano
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-13-2007, 02:11 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

O.K. Guys, lets do the Rhino to start with.!!
I'm by No Means a Bulino Expert,!! this would be my First try as well,!! I will try and do it the way I see it, :willy_nilly:

First off, lets make the tool, Go to the thread that Barry has, and look at the tool description he has there, I ground my point to a needle point 5deg Yaw.
gave it a small flat on the face,(1.5mm dia) then ground a 60deg face, on the front with the 70deg x 17.5 relieve on the back. I find that with this small point, You can see more of the working area. Need a Sketch? let me Know.

Secondly transfer your picture to the practice plate, I use the Tom White Method. Also Print a Larger one to keep handy for Reference later.

Then I set my Classics Idling to just Idling, Experiment on a small piece of plate, You Really want very Minute!! Dots, and the large port closed about 75% Fast Rapid Movement.
Hold the Graver like You Would A pen, and slowly start putting down dots over all the dark areas, no need at this point to make it Too dark, or color the White areas. it is just to get a outline area, I always start with the Eyes, Mouth, ears Etc First, this is the most prominent areas on any picture, and it must be Right.

Will post the first pictures over the weekend.
ChrisB.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-14-2007, 09:00 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

O.K. Guys, Here Is The Final Pictures, Say If You Dont Understand!!
I did It In Record Time!! The Boss Was Over My Shoulder Every Minute, Even Know That I Post This Message, Get Finished.!! Hey Man my Buddies Wat to Know The Progress,!!


This Is The Point I Told YaLL About,


This Is The First Piontalicing that I do with the Picture, Only Cover the Major Areas, Then You Clean The Surface with a Cleaner.


Do Very Rapid Movements Towards Yourselve, If You Go The Opposite Direction, You Will Find Out That The Engraver Digs In!!
All The Light Area is Done In This Fashion.!!



With The Bigger Photo That You Have Handy You Start Coloring the Picture.
Do The Most Dark Areas First, The Angle Of Attack Does Matter, If You Look At The Picture in a Certain Manner, the Darkness Does Matter. !!
Horisontal Marks Appear Darker Than Vertical!!

Last edited by ChrisB; 04-14-2007 at 09:17 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-14-2007, 05:55 PM
Dave London's Avatar
Dave London Dave London is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 2,359
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Chris
Great job I cant thank you enough. Dave
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-14-2007, 11:09 PM
KDavid's Avatar
KDavid KDavid is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orlando, Florida
Posts: 561
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Hey Chris
Where do you find cool photos like that? Thanks for a great tutorial.

David
www.sharpgraver.com
__________________
David Gruber
WWW.Sharpgraver.com
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas
Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-15-2007, 01:07 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Just To Show how I hold The Tool, !!



David I have Tons, Have Been Collecting Photo's for years know, I use it for my Scrim as well as Pyrography work.
Thanks Guys,!!

By The Way, I found a Cool way to Photograph my Engraving, My Sony PS10 lens fits nicely into one of the Eye piece rubber cups,
So all these Photo's was done this way, to show more Clarity.

Last edited by ChrisB; 04-15-2007 at 01:12 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-15-2007, 09:02 AM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

more on the Sony PS10 - pic of yhat?
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-17-2007, 01:09 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Shall we do the rhino as a scrim Practice as well, !! ? or was the Bulino enought ?
ChrisB
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-17-2007, 08:30 AM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

love to see how you approach the ivory work
especially the color techniques


how are you rigging up that sony lense?
can you put up close up of rhino final tight shot?
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-17-2007, 01:27 PM
brandvik's Avatar
brandvik brandvik is offline
Gold
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Texas, USA
Posts: 127
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Chris, Thanks for the tutorial. A picture is worth a thousand words. I was wondering if your bulino points are HSS or Carbalt? Also can you elaborate on on achieving the differing level of shading and how to ensure that you don't "over shade"? Is this more a function pressure used or proximity of the dots or both?
Thanks again!
__________________
Jim B.
http://www.horseshoeengraver.com
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-17-2007, 05:16 PM
deazyner deazyner is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 30
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Just a question for the Bulino experts out there. It seems that, based on Chris' description of his technique, he is using a stippling action for the dots. If this is so, how do the results of "picking" out dots differ from the results achieved when stippling. It seems easier and faster to use the handpiece and stipple as Chris describes and the results seem great. Thanks Chris for taking the time to put this tutorial together. I'm looking forward to the scrimshaw.

Keith
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-18-2007, 12:01 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Jim, The Point is a carbalt, The different levels of shading is achieved by laying out Dots or lines, Either Closer, or spaced further appart, I always shade a area very Lightly,!! then go back and do a second pass on a area that needs to be darker, and a Third, to really get a dark edge, Proximity of the Dots.!! is what counts, Always refer to do Bigger Picture to obtain the correct shading.

Steve, the Sony has a retractable Lense, when You Switch on it telescopes Out, The Outer one that is the last segment fits nicely into the rubber cup on the Scope.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-18-2007, 06:22 AM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default RE Deazyner Bulino or Dot

http://www.engravingarts.net/Glossary2.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by deazyner
Just a question for the Bulino experts out there. It seems that, based on Chris' description of his technique, he is using a stippling action for the dots. If this is so, how do the results of "picking" out dots differ from the results achieved when stippling. It seems easier and faster to use the handpiece and stipple as Chris describes and the results seem great. Thanks Chris for taking the time to put this tutorial together. I'm looking forward to the scrimshaw.

Keith
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

points and lines
what about triangles

i wanna see a scrim tutorial
i am putting one together
like to see how we do thingssame or differnet
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-29-2007, 04:00 PM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

points and lines
what about triangles

i wanna see a scrim tutorial
i am putting one together
like to see how we do thingssame or differnet
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 04-30-2007, 09:48 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Steve,
Yes My Friend, We Will Do A Scrim Together!!
What Do The Other Guest, ? Dam I Forgot, Members Want To See,?

Any Specific Animal,??

Let Us Know!!

ChrisB.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 04-30-2007, 12:18 PM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

i put a note and a pic under your color thread
this should be a lot of squirell busting work
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-01-2007, 10:55 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Hay Steve,
No Photo, we Have Sqarrels out Here But Not The Real Bussy Tails Like You Have!!

ChrisB.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-24-2007, 09:13 PM
maryw maryw is offline
Copper
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 7
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Chris - did you ever have the opportunity to do the scrim tutorial?? I would love to it if you did. If not, I would still love to see one. Possibility anytime soon?
Hope you're doing well.
Mary W
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-02-2007, 09:40 AM
ChrisB's Avatar
ChrisB ChrisB is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Posts: 586
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Hi All,
Mary W.
Now that I'm up and About again, I will try and Finish this Project Very Soon.!!

ChrisB.
__________________
ChrisBooysen
www.cbknives.com

"If you are patient in one Moment of Anger,
You will Escape a hundred Days of Sorrow."
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-02-2007, 09:05 PM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

i take it you were doing less than well....
glad you are alive
later my friend
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-08-2007, 08:28 PM
Mark Gerrasch Mark Gerrasch is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 20
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Hey Chris,

Do you think you could show us the way you're holding the gravers your using? I know for me this would clear up alot of confusion. When you say Scrim shaw, I'm thinking exacto knife. I'd like to see what the tool is doing with some pictures showing how you hold the graver.

THANKS, Mark
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10-11-2007, 11:29 AM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

Just put your index finger on the top of the Airgraver (Palm or Classic) and hold it natuarally point down. The depth of the needle strike is monitored with stroke length and the pinky finger. It does not have to be absolutely vertical.
Graver tips dictate angle of attack somewhat but bery little.
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-07-2007, 12:46 PM
Finn La Rue's Avatar
Finn La Rue Finn La Rue is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 80
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

i would like to see the bulino Tutorial on Vidio
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 01-11-2008, 03:50 PM
paulcdfoss paulcdfoss is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 50
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!

New to the Lindsay foot control, (LOVE it).
Would love to see any bulino techniques...

Thanks,
Paul
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 01-11-2008, 03:53 PM
paulcdfoss paulcdfoss is offline
Steel
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 50
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!! PS

On dial up. High speed is in my near future, god willing.

Paul
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 03-19-2009, 10:19 AM
Steve Ellsworth's Avatar
Steve Ellsworth Steve Ellsworth is offline
Platinum
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Highlands Ranch Colorado
Posts: 784
Default Re: Online ! Bulino or Scrim Tutorial!!!



90 degree graver @60 face
just go slow and don't chip out the ivory
__________________
CoinCutter
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Conduct
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.