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Old 03-18-2010, 01:57 PM
Capt. Fred Capt. Fred is offline
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the help.

Bama, I did do the arches in the border on purpose but I do want to learn how to use a flat for a nick and dot too.

Monk was kind enough to send me some real close up photos of borders and the ones that really caught my eye were done with a flat graver. I've go to make one and start practicing with it so I can branch out a bit more.

I've got a Virginia style longrifle on the drawing board (in my head) and I'm seeing that rifle as a much more formal critter than this one. I'm going to try a much more formal, balanced look on that rifle. It will have brass furniture instead of steel so hopefully the brass will be a little easier to cut.

I was surprised at how differently one piece of steel cut from another on this fowler. The parts of the lock were quite hard and I had to be sharpening constantly. I didn't even attempt the frizzen as it is hardened all the way through. The other parts varied quite a bit as well. You guys are probably used to this but I wasn't aware there were so many dang versions of "steel".

Oh, Bama, is the technique you describe similar to the one in Lynton's engraving video? I've got to re-watch that because I remember he had what looked like a fairly simple technique that looked real nice.

Thanks again!
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Old 03-19-2010, 09:25 AM
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I have not seen Lyntons video so I can't say. I learned this from Frank Bartlett who was a mentor of mine before he passed away. I also took an engraving class from Mark Silver at WKU and I think he uses the flat also.

I am working on a Iron mounted version of the "Klette" rifle and will hopefully have it engraved in the next 2 or 3 weeks. I will post pictures and you can tell me what you think.
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Old 03-19-2010, 01:56 PM
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Very good. Thanks for the come back. I'll keep an eye out for your "Klette"

Thanks again.

Ken
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Old 03-20-2010, 07:32 AM
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Fred,

I think the fowler came out quite right. The naive quality of the engraving fits quite well with such a period piece. Overall it looks very much like an 18th century gun.

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Old 03-20-2010, 12:39 PM
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Thanks Roger. It is interesting looking at photos of the engraving on originals. A few are beautiful, both in technique and artistry. But many, many are really klunky in both of those catagories. (at least to my eye) Same goes for the carving on the originals too.

It's not as if it wasn't possible at the time, as the British, and Germans on the continent, sure could turn out some amazing stuff.
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Old 03-20-2010, 02:37 PM
KeithPedersen KeithPedersen is offline
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Capt Fred,
Nice engraving on the gun.

I see you are in North Carolina. There is a get together at Ken Hursts house in Robersonville, NC the first weekend in May. Maybe you can take a ride and meet all the others. I went there last year and there was alot to learn from all the other engravers that were there.
Later,
Keith
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Old 03-20-2010, 05:52 PM
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Hi Keith, JJ Roberts and Big-Un told me about that get together. I think I replied properly to them in the private message manner but I'm not certain I've got that figured out LOL.

Anyways, I'd love to come to the get together, I'm in Edenton so I'm only about an hour away.

Is it the 1st and 2nd of May?

OOPS,,I just saw the other thread! All set now.

My e-mail is ken.moors@gte.net

If someone could send me directions that would be great.

Thanks!
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